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I'm moving this summer, tell me where to
May 2nd 2012, 03:48 CEST by Milan BrezovskĂ˝

I know this is a weak attempt to add a new topic to the front page, but why not.

I'm leaving my job at the end of May. Then I want to start working on my own projects. My flatmate is moving out by the end of June, so my boring options are
1. find a new flatmate
2. move to a different apartment within Prague

Or, you know, I could just try something new.

Let’s say I want to spend up to 800 € per month for everything, incl. the rent. So let’s say 400 € rent, 200 € food, 200 € internet, phone, mass transit and a minimum of fun.

My requirements are:
- I need to be able to be there without a visa, or with an absolute minimum of paperwork. I don’t mind being there 3 months and then moving elsewhere.
- I cannot stand more that 22 degrees Celsius to function.
- I prefer politically stable governments, which is to say, nowhere on Earth.

My candidates are:
- Iceland, I could get a tiny room for like 320 €. I love the nature. I don’t mind the weather. I could hang out with Gaggle.
- Scandinavia. I seem to get along well with people from there.
- Poland. I haven’t done much research, but again, friendly people + the language (basics) should be relatively easy to learn.
- New Zealand - although I don’t want to fly there + care about a visa. I could stay 3 months on a visitor visa.
- Balkan - Serbia, Croatia, Romania? Haven’t done any research yet.

In general, I would prefer English-speaking countries. UK seems too expensive and I don’t trust the political scene there; I don’t care about USA except for my friends there; Canada also seems to grow more immigrant-unfriendly, and most of other EU states are too expensive or unable to accommodate lazy ass like me who doesn’t speak anything useful but English.

I might also just couchsurf around Europe for a few months to see the world and then settle down wherever I like, after experiencing the culture for myself (or just return to Prague).
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#128 by Shadarr
2012-06-16 02:40:24
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
Puritans.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#129 by Milan BrezovskĂ˝
2012-06-16 13:24:02
http://uglycode.com
And this is why casual "gaming" is not the future of gaming, and definitely is not raising a new generation of hardcore gamers.

But what about the effects of the many software tools we use? How do all the ingenious applications we depend on to find and evaluate information, form and communicate our thoughts, and carry out other cognitive chores influence what and how we learn? In 2003, a Dutch clinical psychologist named Christof van Nimwegen began a fascinating study of computer-aided learning that a BBC writer would later call “one of the most interesting examinations of current computer use and the potential downsides of our increasing reliance on screen-based interaction with information systems.”26 Van Nimwegen had two groups of volunteers work through a tricky logic puzzle on a computer. The puzzle involved transferring colored balls between two boxes in accordance with a set of rules governing which balls could be moved at which time. One of the groups used software that had been designed to be as helpful as possible. It offered on-screen assistance during the course of solving the puzzle, providing visual cues, for instance, to highlight permitted moves. The other group used a bare-bones program, which provided no hints or other guidance.

In the early stages of solving the puzzle, the group using the helpful software made correct moves more quickly than the other group, as would be expected. But as the test proceeded, the proficiency of the members of the group using the bare-bones software increased more rapidly. In the end, those using the unhelpful program were able to solve the puzzle more quickly and with fewer wrong moves. They also reached fewer impasses—states in which no further moves were possible—than did the people using the helpful software. The findings indicated, as van Nimwegen reported, that those using the unhelpful software were better able to plan ahead and plot strategy, while those using the helpful software tended to rely on simple trial and error. Often, in fact, those with the helpful software were found “to aimlessly click around” as they tried to crack the puzzle.27

Eight months after the experiment, van Nimwegen reassembled the groups and had them again work on the colored-balls puzzle as well as a variation on it. He found that the people who had originally used the unhelpful software were able to solve the puzzles nearly twice as fast as those who had used the helpful software.


Carr, Nicholas (2011-06-06). The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains (Kindle Locations 3636-3653). Norton. Kindle Edition.

Parhelic Triangle is coming. Eventually.
#130 by gaggle
2012-06-16 14:28:47
Which paper is this? I can't find it. From your excerpt I'm not seeing how this relates to gaming at all, but sounds like an interesting experiment in solving tasks with software.

"Roses are red, violets are blue, rubbish is dumped and so are you." : : - FML
#131 by gaggle
2012-06-16 14:29:46
Well, on 2nd thought maybe there isn't a paper at all that's why I can't find it. Just part of the book. Thanks.

"Roses are red, violets are blue, rubbish is dumped and so are you." : : - FML
#132 by Wudi
2012-06-16 14:47:14
#127 by G-Man

I have a hard time understanding serious intolerance to homosexuality even on supposed religious grounds. Who cares what people do?


If you follow a religion, that includes following the rules of it, even if you don't like the all the rules.

I like soccer, but I like to use my hands too as well as my feet. Not being able to use my hands when I want is stupid!

The rules are there for a reason, like them or not.

Zep--

w0rd up!
#133 by Milan BrezovskĂ˝
2012-06-16 15:48:29
http://uglycode.com
gaggle - the excerpt is from the book, the paper mentioned is

Christof van Nimwegen, “The Paradox of the Guided User: Assistance Can Be Counter-effective,” SIKS Dissertation Series No. 2008-09, Utrecht University, March 31, 2008. See also Christof van Nimwegen and Herre van Oostendorp, “The Questionable Impact of an Assisting Interface on Performance in Transfer Situations,” International Journal of Industrial Ergonomics, 39, no. 3 (May 2009): 501–8.


And am I the only one who understands that shitty tutorials, driving guides, puzzle hints and otherwise useful UI improvements / simplifications just dumb players down and then eventually give up on figuring the game by themselves? Games are replacing learning with more passive forms of entertainment, which is weakening any positive effect games might have had on our brains.

Parhelic Triangle is coming. Eventually.
#134 by anaqer
2012-06-16 16:24:30
#132 by Wudi
If you follow a religion, that includes following the rules of it, even if you don't like the all the rules.

Well, everyone's free to go on and follow all those rules, but if somebody doesn't, then all he's losing is the right to claim himself to be a hardcore follower of said religion (whoopty-fucking-doo). Not the right to be gay. Or the right to talk about it on the internet.

Flipping out about teh gay homofags on religious grounds is like a kid punching ice cream from the hands of another kid and stepping on it, just because his mom didn't let him have some, too.

¤ "Apple hates everyone now." - BJB
#135 by Wudi
2012-06-16 19:01:23
Or flipping out over other peoples religious beliefs on teh internets, let's not forget to include that one...

Zep--

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#136 by G-Man
2012-06-16 22:29:11
Religions should all be permissive rather than mandatory, otherwise you have inherent incompatibility which is a poor design choice for the long-term viability of the belief system. Just like console exclusives hurt the game industry as a whole in the long-term.
#137 by anaqer
2012-06-17 04:53:20
OK, I'll engage... Wudi, it's time to come out - are you religious at all, in any way? Do you believe you have anything more than just a sheer distaste to pin against good old fashioned homobumfuckery?

G-Man,
Religions are all by design meant to keep people in check - which is not always bad (I mean, "Don't kill," seems like a fairly useful idea in most societies), but "Don't like your fellow man more than I tell you to do" seems rather... silly and arbitrary.

¤ "Apple hates everyone now." - BJB
#138 by G-Man
2012-06-17 05:23:20
Well have babies probably made sense as a commandment back in the day.
#139 by anaqer
2012-06-17 05:40:52
Probably, yes. Depending on the definition of "back in the day", that could be construed as a truth. But, like it or not, we're waaay past that. In this age of critical overpopulation... give me non-breeders over breeders any day of the week. If anything, homoerothicism should actually be cheered now, not derided.

¤ "Apple hates everyone now." - BJB
#140 by gaggle
2012-06-17 05:42:24
Like in The Forever War.

"Roses are red, violets are blue, rubbish is dumped and so are you." : : - FML
#141 by gaggle
2012-06-17 05:55:31
Thanks for looking that up Milan.

I see it as games are entertainment and most people don't intent to learn from them. Of course some people do want to work for their gaming joy and there's a niche for those players. But that games as a whole are becoming easier and less of an obstacle to overcome for the player seem like a natural side effect of becoming ever more mainstream. The trick for us is to find the niches that we enjoy and let others play the drivel they like :)

"Roses are red, violets are blue, rubbish is dumped and so are you." : : - FML
#142 by Wudi
2012-06-17 13:34:30
#137 by anaqer

OK, I'll engage... Wudi, it's time to come out - are you religious at all, in any way? Do you believe you have anything more than just a sheer distaste to pin against good old fashioned homobumfuckery?



Raised a Catholic, now I'm just a plain old Christian.

I've probably said it before here, but I'll say it again. The more you let people cross the line with deviant behavior, the more the line gets pushed back.

The more you tolerate, the more the other deviants push, and sooner or later people are marrying toasters and animals, or worse, having sex with your kids without penalty.

How many years would you have to go back where you couldn't be "proud" to be a member of NAMBLA, and instead would get your fucked up ass kicked even thinking about such a thing?

/\ This crazy shit is happening in our lifetime.

You don't think they are hurting you, but in the long run, they are. The world gets more fucked up the more we "tolerate" fucked up people.

Zep--

w0rd up!
#143 by gaggle
2012-06-17 13:54:29
Guys, is there a plonk script for iPad?

"Roses are red, violets are blue, rubbish is dumped and so are you." : : - FML
#144 by anaqer
2012-06-17 14:33:20
Have you tried something like this?

¤ "Apple hates everyone now." - BJB
#145 by gaggle
2012-06-17 14:43:40
Unfortunately not mobile Safari compatible.

"Roses are red, violets are blue, rubbish is dumped and so are you." : : - FML
#146 by Wudi
2012-06-17 23:16:04
Oh brother, It's Warren Jr.

Zep--

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#147 by Milan BrezovskĂ˝
2012-06-18 00:08:36
http://uglycode.com
Speaking of filth and corruption, it's weird that this economic depression didn't make the skirts go down yet.

Parhelic Triangle is coming. Eventually.
#148 by Wudi
2012-06-18 01:15:49
While Hussein Obama has definitely dropped the ball during his term, despite his non economy helping administration, skirts are on the rise thanks to the GOP and big business stepping up to the plate.

Zep--

w0rd up!
#149 by m0nty
2012-06-18 05:23:43
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Milan lives in Prague, where most of the female population work as webcam whores. He's lucky to see them in clothing, let alone skirts.
#150 by Greg
2012-06-18 06:12:58
The more you tolerate, the more the other deviants push, and sooner or later people are marrying toasters and animals, or worse, having sex with your kids without penalty.

That's a bullshit argument and you and Rick Santorum know it. No one is supporting Jerry Sandusky, and no one in their right mind supports the Catholic priests who go around diddling boys.

#151 by Milan BrezovskĂ˝
2012-06-18 11:56:17
http://uglycode.com
#149 by m0nty

Milan lives in Prague, where most of the female population work as webcam whores. He's lucky to see them in clothing, let alone skirts.


Truth. That's why I'm moving to rest my eyes on chaste Estonian ladies.

Parhelic Triangle is coming. Eventually.
#152 by anaqer
2012-06-18 12:53:55
#142 by Wudi
I've probably said it before here, but I'll say it again. The more you let people cross the line with deviant behavior, the more the line gets pushed back.
The more you tolerate, the more the other deviants push, and sooner or later people are marrying toasters and animals, or worse, having sex with your kids without penalty.

A slippery slope argument, how quaint.

¤ "Apple hates everyone now." - BJB
#153 by None-1a
2012-06-18 13:50:56
#138 by G-Man
Well have babies probably made sense as a commandment back in the day.


All but one of the verses doesn't really sound like they are about makeing babies when taken in context with the surrounding verses. Rather they come off as commandments to simply not engage in behavor that was preceived to have caused problems and decline in other cultures at the time.

Don't forget garnishes such as: Fish shaped solid waste.
#154 by Wudi
2012-06-18 14:55:21
#150 by Greg

The more you tolerate, the more the other deviants push, and sooner or later people are marrying toasters and animals, or worse, having sex with your kids without penalty.

That's a bullshit argument and you and Rick Santorum know it. No one is supporting Jerry Sandusky, and no one in their right mind supports the Catholic priests who go around diddling boys.


Not yet they don't. That's my point. The line moves ever back decade after decade.

Zep--

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#155 by Wudi
2012-06-18 14:57:20
#152 by anaqer

#142 by Wudi

I've probably said it before here, but I'll say it again. The more you let people cross the line with deviant behavior, the more the line gets pushed back.

The more you tolerate, the more the other deviants push, and sooner or later people are marrying toasters and animals, or worse, having sex with your kids without penalty.

A slippery slope argument, how quaint.


If you want to engage, this is how not to do it.

Zep--

w0rd up!
#156 by Greg
2012-06-18 18:18:36
Not yet they don't and not ever. You and Santorum (I'm going to keep mentioning his name because he said the same thing first years ago) *want* to equate those things, but normal people do not.

#157 by bago
2012-06-18 18:52:45
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
IIRC, Wudi lives in the south, so inter-familial relations are not outside of the norm, along with the genetic results.

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#158 by bago
2012-06-18 18:55:03
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Intra. I meant to say intra. It's way too early.

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#159 by Matt Perkins
2012-06-18 21:44:36
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Yeah, slippery slope doesn't work here Wudi, sorry.

Why? Because the 'deviant line' you refer doesn't exist.  It's a made up construct created by your religion. It is not a universal line, it is not a decency line, it just a line that someone made up and you are attempting to follow. The worst part is...do you even know the rules that you claim to follow? I won't even going into the sordid history of the creation of your rule book.


I'm going to call a spade a spade here. You're homophobic. Not because you're religion tells you so, but because you are scared of gay men (they could point their gayness at me!). I get it. The ignorant are often scared of things they don't understand.


I'm not going to try to appeal to your logical sense, because you don't want to see. But cowering behind religion is a weak man's choice imo. You either live beliefs you have questioned and challenged and found be acceptable enough...or you let someone else tell you how to live.

"programmers talk from a very deep gnome cavern, full of gold mechanics" - wisdom from the ancients
#160 by Wudi
2012-06-18 23:06:05
#156 by Greg

Not yet they don't and not ever. You and Santorum (I'm going to keep mentioning his name because he said the same thing first years ago) *want* to equate those things, but normal people do not.


And I say the definition of what you are calling "normal" today, is not the same as it was 50, 100 or 150 years ago. The line has been creeping direction for some time.

Let me put forth some more examples.

Parents/Schools can no longer discipline (yes, you can read that as beat) their kids. This in my lifetime.

Proverbs: Do not withhold correction from a child, For if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. You shall beat him with a rod, And deliver his soul from hell.

How the views/"tolerance" has changed on abortion. Again, in my lifetime.

You can get all hung up on the homosexuality thing, but with each passing year the world becomes more and more morally bankrupt (there and elsewhere).

I'm from PA. I know all about Santorum, he's OK in my book.

Matt, All 1 line quotes with the surrounding context removed. If that and what amounts to calling me a stupid poopy head is how you argue or debate, don't waste your breath on me.

Zep--

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#161 by Greg
2012-06-19 00:17:03
How about some more examples from the past 150 years.

You used to be able to own a slave.

Women couldn't do a damn thing except housework and raise children.

People of mixed races couldn't have a relationship.

Black people had to go to their own schools.

Alcohol was banned.


Yeah, lets turn back the clock.

Also, please don't bring up the Bible and what you should or shouldn't do. Motherfuckers are completely hypocritical about that. The Bible lists so many things that are punishable by death that people who use the Bible as justification for their ill-formed opinions would be dead a thousand times over if they held every word of it true.

#162 by TreeFrog
2012-06-19 00:22:52
How is it possible to have a reasoned debate with someone who believes the bible is the unerring word of God? Sooner or later it's going to come down to "yeah, but the bible says you're wrong", end of "discussion". Why the fuck SHOULD anyone waste their breath on you?

"One part disembowels me while another slowly eats its way through the gas line. As I bleed out on the floor, it reminds me that I need to buy milk." - Jibble
#163 by Jibble
2012-06-19 00:41:39
What the fuck are you idiots doing?

I know this place is bleeding out after a nasty fall into a sarchasm, but at least let it die with some dignity. Don't let the last words of this place be, "I think the unbelievably obvious troll is wrong!"

I want to go to there.

Blog.
#164 by Wudi
2012-06-19 00:59:48
#161 by Greg

How about some more examples from the past 150 years.

You used to be able to own a slave.

Women couldn't do a damn thing except housework and raise children.

People of mixed races couldn't have a relationship.

Black people had to go to their own schools.

Alcohol was banned.

Yeah, lets turn back the clock.



Good points all, but it goes back to "normal" and who and what defines it. It probably wasn't your intention, but...you're kinda making my point for me. Normal is not "static" and by your own examples, is changing.

Now, If I am such an idiot, was the whole world idiotic back when normal was different? Is anyone's normal really better than my normal or the normal of the past?

TreeFrog: I also don't bring the bible into all things, just some things. But uh, Matt Perkins brought it up first I believe in this discussion. (Aside from me answering anaqer's question to me bout what my religion was.)

Zep--

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#165 by yotsuya
2012-06-19 02:34:29
Aw man, I saw 90 posts and got excited. Too bad 45 of them are Wudi.

#166 by TreeFrog
2012-06-19 03:03:42
#164 by Wudi
Now, If I am such an idiot, was the whole world idiotic back when normal was different? Is anyone's normal really better than my normal or the normal of the past?

Since normal of the past was racist, sexist and anti-abolitionist I think it's pretty safe to say my normal's better than that.


TreeFrog: I also don't bring the bible into all things, just some things.

Convenient!

"One part disembowels me while another slowly eats its way through the gas line. As I bleed out on the floor, it reminds me that I need to buy milk." - Jibble
#167 by Wudi
2012-06-19 03:40:26
Treefrog,

Remember when you could start your car then unhook a battery cable and the car would still run?

Zep--

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#168 by Matt Perkins
2012-06-19 04:10:48
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Zep

Let me break it down further for you. I'm saying you aren't following some imaginary line, you're pretending to follow parts of the impossible to follow line that are convenient to you.

Signed,
Matt

"programmers talk from a very deep gnome cavern, full of gold mechanics" - wisdom from the ancients
#169 by jjohnsen
2012-06-19 04:54:18
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I know all about Santorum, he's OK in my book.


That's about all we need to know about Wudi's views on anything.

#170 by Greg
2012-06-19 04:54:51
Good points all, but it goes back to "normal" and who and what defines it. It probably wasn't your intention, but...you're kinda making my point for me. Normal is not "static" and by your own examples, is changing.

Your definition of what "normal" will become is based on paranoia or... something. It isn't rational, and it isn't following any sort of line, even though you are trying to play connect-the-dots. The dots you're connecting are from something that's not even on the page.

#171 by Matt Perkins
2012-06-19 05:25:08
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Fuck you, Zep, fuck you. When you are making me agree with Greg something just is way off...

"programmers talk from a very deep gnome cavern, full of gold mechanics" - wisdom from the ancients
#172 by Shadarr
2012-06-19 11:39:40
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
What's wrong with Greg?  He's good people.

"I hope you one day decide to smarten the fuck up so I can stand to look at your posts." - gaggle
#173 by None-1a
2012-06-19 13:47:16
#162 by TreeFrog
Why the fuck SHOULD anyone waste their breath on you?


No one should, in fact the bible even says you shouldn't "Speak not to the ears of a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of thy words."

Don't forget garnishes such as: Fish shaped solid waste.
#174 by Wudi
2012-06-19 15:07:15
#170 by Greg


Your definition of what "normal" will become is based on paranoia or... something. It isn't rational, and it isn't following any sort of line, even though you are trying to play connect-the-dots. The dots you're connecting are from something that's not even on the page.


We were not talking about what my definition normal is, we were talking about how normal has changed over the years.

As far as I can tell, we agree normal has changed. Now, I would like to know why you think it can't change further in the directions I mentioned (animals, toasters, etc...)?

We've despised a lot of stuff in the past that is acceptable now.

Zep--

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#175 by Wudi
2012-06-19 15:08:40
#173 by None-1a

#162 by TreeFrog

Why the fuck SHOULD anyone waste their breath on you?

No one should, in fact the bible even says you shouldn't "Speak not to the ears of a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of thy words."


Interesting you should say that as the comments once again devolve into personal attacks instead of talking about the subject at hand....

Zep--

w0rd up!
#176 by Wudi
2012-06-19 15:46:18
And some context

Man marries dog

Wants to marry pillow

I can't find the one I read about the guy wanting to marry his toaster (or some other appliance, maybe his fridge)

Sure, those stories seems weird now (and they are weird!), but there were a lot of things considered weird/creepy/abnormal in the past that are perfectly acceptable now.

Zep--

w0rd up!
#177 by Milan BrezovskĂ˝
2012-06-19 16:56:26
http://uglycode.com
Well, for one, if they will be loyal to their pillow brides, at least these kinds of idiots won't reproduce as much. Meanwhile, trailer trash reproduces as fast as always.

Parhelic Triangle is coming. Eventually.
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